17-10-2017 07:13 PM
17-10-2017 07:13 PM
Welcome @Former-Member and please be sure to look after yourself, if you are finding this too confronting make sure you access support, call our helpline or step away when needed.
@Phoenix_Rising I think thats a good point - a lot of recovery discussion in mental health is actually talking about a journey or a path to being well.
@Former-Member I can see how it seems sad - that first definition is a medical one that seems to apply in a broader health way. This could be a great way fos us to find a more positive way of approaching recovery and its 'definitions
17-10-2017 07:15 PM
17-10-2017 07:15 PM
Hi all 🙂
17-10-2017 07:17 PM
17-10-2017 07:17 PM
Welcome @Former-Member
I think that is exactly the issue with this definition and as @Phoenix_Rising said - the word Recovery itself? There is no standard for 'normal' in mental health. We are uniquely different in our experiences, which is why having a word like this is hard to experience and 'define' when we all come out with different understandings I think. Curious no?
If you were to word your own definition how would you like it worded perhaps?
17-10-2017 07:18 PM
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I am not sure if it is recovery but something we learn to manage. My psych said to me once that my MI is something I will have to learn to manage and deal with for my life. Does that mean I will never recover? Or do I recover when I get to a point where I gain control, undestanding and acceptance of my MI
17-10-2017 07:21 PM
17-10-2017 07:21 PM
@Phoenix_Rising wrote:I do not understand why in mental health people seem to feel the need to use the word "recovery" when from what I can tell (and based on the definitions you have given) what they actually mean is "living well with...." If that's what they mean, why not just say that?
I totally agree with this, @Phoenix_Rising.
I really think the problem is the term 'recovery'.
17-10-2017 07:25 PM
17-10-2017 07:25 PM
Welcome @CheerBear and @Former-Member,
Both of you have some really positive insights here - I find it interesting @Former-Member to see the differing views between you and Mr Darcy where he sees it as the complete healed outcome and you base it more on living a meaningful life.
@CheerBear I think that the way you have reframed your view to see recovery as something you as platforms or points you get to as really interesting. @Former-Member I think a lot of people are told similar things to your therapist and I feel that means that yes you will 'recover' at all different points and days and moments and that is the journey that maybe some of those definitions look to include. Small wins can be a recovery.
17-10-2017 07:26 PM
17-10-2017 07:26 PM
17-10-2017 07:29 PM - edited 17-10-2017 08:05 PM
17-10-2017 07:29 PM - edited 17-10-2017 08:05 PM
Hi @Former-Member . Haven't answered your question on the other thread but stumbled on u here. Its 4.20pm here so am not sure whether this forum is still on. My first time here. I don't feel recovery means anything to me cuz life is a cycle and each day we are going forward and getting older. New challenges coming our ways, more tissues and cells found their expiry dates and at certain age cells are no longer renewed..ie the skin cells, retinoid, brain cells etc. When going againsts trauma..the damages gets heavier. At certain age we reach menopause and andropause. We tend to get wiser with age but recovery...? I don't believe in reverse action of the living cells. Right now i am having recurring pain from my slipped disc which happened some 20 yrs back. So..recovery? Its just a cycle.
Just my 2 cent.
17-10-2017 07:32 PM
17-10-2017 07:32 PM
Hi @Former-Member
my husband Mr Shaz who has Mi , I asked him this question tonight , he has been thinking about it and he said he would love to do things , go places without the fear of being anxious and having panic attacks
me speaking ) -- takes my husband all the power and strenght to go to social events and can only go to one at a time
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